How Linux make me have a painful day (or why i hate windows)
Today at work (where i can’t use linux) i was asked to do a really easy and repetitive task: Take screenshots from an e-learning course and paste it with the content text on a text document.
It sounds easy (not fun, just easy), well it wasn’t for several reasons:
1. Cntrl+Alt+$ARROW doesn’t go to any other desktop: there are no virtual desktops on windows, so you can’t change from one document to other just changing desktops, you need to search the application you need in the ones you have open.
2. A screenshot means a picture of the whole screen: You can’t take a screenshot from just the application you want, you need to shot the whole window and then edit the picture to just include the application you want.
3. Middle click doesn’t paste the selected text: You need to explicitly Copy and then paste, why!?
After i started with those problems i started thinking: is that what it feels for a windows user to use Linux? Why to people say Linux is harder if i’m finding so hard use windows? Is that Linux has make me lazy? Why do people prefer to use the slow and horrible mouse over the keyboard?
The good thing: Now i have some complainings to say to windows user when they start saying: “You need to make it that way in linux?”
P.D: If you are going to leave a comment saying: “You can use $3th_PARTY_APPLICATION in windows to do that” just don’t because then i will say: “Why do i need to make a research and install 3rth party applications if i can do it in linux out of the box?”
nxvl @ June 26, 2008
2. Alt-PrtScr copies the focused window’s image to the clipboard (including window decorations).
2. alt-print screen
3. ctrl-v
It’s all about what you know and how you adjust to other systems.
How do Windows users feel when you say “use Linux” then they are presented with 4 major distros and they all look basically the same, but if they were that similar why are there 4 (or more) of them?
P.D. Your distro is all third party apps packaged together.
Ksnapshot FTW, especially in KDE4 where you can edit the resize area before taking the screenshot.
I take screenshots (full screen, selected window, selected object, selected region) all the time in my job. I wish I had Ksnapshot for my Windows XP when I have to review Windows-only software (soon, hopefully).
1. You only have multiple desktops because whatever window manager you’re using has them. If you weren’t using Gnome/KDE, you might not have one. Microsoft expects you to minimize.
2. Alt+PrtScn. Not that hard.
3. Because Microsoft figured that just because you selected something doesn’t mean you want to overwrite whatever is currently in the clipboard. You may just want to erase it. This is one of the most obnoxious things about X11.
This is seriously a dumb post. You’re talking about personal preferences and how Microsoft must conform to what YOU like. I could make just as ignorant a list:
1. If I copy a picture in one application, why can’t I paste it into another? (Because the shared-clipboard idea is new to Linux developers for some reason)
2. Why does text focus follow my mouse? I’m typing in a window, just cause I move my mouse doesn’t mean I want to type somewhere else. (Oh you can change that! Are you using Gnome/KDE/Xfce/Fluxbox or what?)
3. Why can’t I play video games without turning off the thing that make my desktop into a rotating cube? (Because someone thought eye-candy was more important than having a working desktop)
I really wish that there was a crop-before-save in GNOMEs screenshot too, otherwise it’s great.
I have the same experience totally with Windows.
Also, OS/X has a nifty screenshot tool I’d like to see in Linux where you just drag-select a part of the screen and that is saved to the Desktop as an image. Hmm a Compiz plugin perhaps, just hold Super-drag and get this effect? Maybe it already exists?
jegHegy: Thanks, i love you!
Duncan: cntrl+v IS saying explicitly that i want to paste something. Yes, my distro is an out-of-the-box working group of 3th party applications, so i don’t need to find them!
seele: exactly!
Ken: A) 1. Most of the WM in linux have virtual desktops or something similar.
2. Didn’t knew it, thnaks!
3. Why!!!
B) 1. Yes you can, i do it all the time.
2. It is a configurable option, you can disable it, btw i don’t remember it’s activated by default on any WM.
3) Why do you need a Desktop to play games if can run only the X server and the game and use my resources only for the game?
Linux sucks. Get over it.
This is to both sides of this “argument”: If you know how to do something one way, and you are for some reason forced to do it differently, the different way will always seem stupid. Everyone needs to read this:
http://linux.oneandoneis2.org/LNW.htm
And realize it goes the other way too.
BSD rules, bitches!
Linux make you work fast without thinking in details like those.
Why did they don’t let you work with Linux? Are they afraid that your productivity exceed theirs?
How the rebooting thing doing for you?
Watch you of the viruses
Linux rocks, and I use ksnapshot (even with gnome as my de). Really nice tool
Linux is awsome but this is a lame post.
Try to use forums and IRC a bit more….
I need a drink.
Linux Rocks!!
With certain systems (Dell, on board video), I’ve not only had Crtl+Alt+ArrowKey not move me to other desktops in windows, but it actually rotates the screen, talk about annoying!
MWSNAP is a MS-Windows freeware program that works much like KSnapshot under Linux, and you can snap any region on your screen you choose.
Get it from:
http://www.snapfiles.com/get/mwsnap.html
As a teacher of high school computer science, I dual-boot between Win XP and Linux, and I’ve looked hard for programs and utilities that function similarly on both platforms, though I do prefer Linux with KDE.
I’ll give you another use case I ran into where Linux makes things easy and Windows never knew it was possible to do that.
One time a while back I had to go into a folder containing on the order of 10,000 files. Of those, I had to extract certain files to keep and trash the rest. Now, what made things manageable was that the files to keep all had a marker series of characters at the end of their filenames. What made it not so manageable was that about 1/3 of the files had these markers.
So try that in Windows. Try going through 10,000 files to take out around 3,000 files and then dump the rest. Good luck and I’ll see you next year.
In Linux, it took only a moment to use the shell with the appropriate wildcard character matchings to issue a one-line command that would do exactly what I wanted (move the marked files to a different folder, then delete the rest).
Personnally, the stuff I miss the most when using Windows is the functionality the mouse wheel has on Linux. You can use it without clicking first, you can scroll a window in the background without raising it, you can change the volume simply by moving your mouse over the volume icon and moving your mouse wheel…
That middle click paste this is great! I had never heard of it before.
Thanks!
Personally I’m a bit disappointed by your post. It’s most about your limited knowledge of the Win platform. (and thus makes as little sense as the average linux hate post).
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P.D: If you are going to leave a comment saying: “You can use $3th_PARTY_APPLICATION in windows to do that” just don’t because then i will say: “Why do i need to make a research and install 3rth party applications if i can do it in linux out of the box?”
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Because infact you where not working in Linux! Why need I stick with 120Km/h if in an other country I may go faster?
This is the main thing for windows. It’s an OS, not a software collection. Out of the box it’s as helpless as a up-side-down turtle. You WILL need 3th party apps for anything. Whereas for Linux for example in rare cases it doesn’t work out of the box, you have to be/get a technician to solve it.
I do not have to compare.
Every OS has ups and downs.
So do not complain anymore, accept the fact or quit that job.
Whatever.
BTW: I am using 100% of time Linux except when I have to configure some client’s hosts. So choose a job that lets you use Linux or stop complaining.
Jadd: Some drivers do that, but not the Windows default ones :/ I really wish they did though!
to the OP: this is a truly lame post. It’s one thing I’m used to the middle-click thing, but if it’s not the biggest obstacle sometimes, I don’t know what it is. I go to select something and paste something in its place, and I paste the thing I had just selected, what the heck.
linux dont let me play online game
it’s so hard for me
tell me if you find any solution for this
cadega/wine doesnt work
in windows, i can use my webcam properly
in linux, it take me hours to configure it and make it work
i’m end user, not developer.. i need thing to work, not make thing works
-tq-
hi…
i’m not hate windows but i love linux expecially Ubuntu! why? because with linux we can contribute together
>Why do people prefer to use the slow and horrible mouse over the keyboard?
…What?
Now I know that you are just trolling.
zealot!!
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Linux is easy for linux user’s
Windows is easy for windows user’s
That’s all
Stop whining like a fucking girl…
1.why would everybody need many desktops?
2.Already answered
3.Already answered
Learn to write in proper english noob
great english.
I guess winbugs has the option to press shift + print screen to capture the active window only. I’m not pretty sure, I’m using intrepid (but I’ll have to use XPeriment again, hehe)
By the way, the problem for users lies in the differences between both systems, not in their practical ways. It took me some time to know how to take a screenshot of the compiz cube